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While crafting a charming fantasy story with magic and fantastical happenings in a world where humans and wizards live side-by-side, Scenario Writer Tsushimi Bunta and World Supervisor Kazuma Kowo also portray realistic sentiments that we have all experienced, like the feeling of inferiority and anxiety. Thus, they make the wizards in the story relatable to the audience and move readers’ hearts. To celebrate the first anniversary of Mahoutsukai no Yakusoku, in this issue we invited the two creators to a long interview of about 10k words! We looked back at Main Story 1 and discussed the relationships between the characters. We hope you will enjoy the interview, in which our guests so generously shared their views with us.
The fairy tale-like quality of the twins
Q: First of all, allow us to ask about Snow and White, who are the most senior in age in the story. In the scene where Snow and White nestled close to an anxious Sage who had been suddenly transported to another world, we learn the dramatic fact that White is dead. The details of White’s death are told in their affection stories. Please tell us what is the important thing you keep in mind when you write them?
A: We don’t want to lose the balance of “it’s easy to feel close to the twins but they’re still pretty scary – the twins are pretty scary but it’s easy to feel close to them”, so that’s something we need to pay attention to. If the reader feels too close to them then the sense of tension and fear will be lost, and if they are too terrifying then the reader can’t feel at ease around them. However, those aspects of them will suddenly change depending on each situation, such that they are like characters from a ghost story. With that as the basis, there’s the sense that they are always together and have very similar outlooks of life, as they have always been separated from the world. There is a kind of ‘ultimate private jokes and family secrets’ that are shared only between the two of them for eternity, which we portray via a kind of unsettling humor. As the result of a certain incident, something that they both desired became no longer the case, as their outlooks of life change and drift from each other. That’s something interesting in a fairy tale-like way, isn’t it?
The relationship that represents the entire ‘look’ of the story
Q: In the part where Arthur and the others headed to the castle in Northern Country where Oz resided, one can see Oz’ devastation to learn that Arthur had been chosen as a Sage’s Wizard in parallel to Oz’ presence as the most powerful wizard known in the world. Through that, one can have a glimpse of what their relationship is like. What is the important thing in your mind when you write them?
A: Those two are the duo whose relationship can be said to represent the entire ‘look’ of the story. If they’re too much in the uncertain zone, the atmosphere of the story will become overly shaky. If everything is fine and dandy, they will be on too solid ground and there will be no drama. In one aspect, they have a stable relationship while in another aspect, they’re in a precarious situation, and we have to watch carefully for the doses of all that. Oz is someone who didn’t care much about how others viewed him. However, when he raised Arthur and earned his trust, Oz began to vaguely regret what he had done. For Arthur, Oz reflected on himself and came to believe that Arthur shouldn’t be with him for his own sake. Meanwhile, Arthur went through the experience of Oz not showing up to greet him on top of being abandoned by his parents, so he cannot feel proud about his affection. In a way, both of them are used to living with the distance between them. When one looks at only the two of them, they have a powerful bond. However, when one looks at the past, present, and future, as well as the politics and cultures that surround them, one has to wonder if that same bond can hold all the way to the end. It will be great if we can express the charm of such a fine balance, as well as of the moving parts from the fact that they will continue to be influenced by everyone and everything around them, such that they will change dramatically for both better and worse.
The duo who are too young for a lord-and-vassal relationship
Q: In the scene where the Sage asked Shino about the reason of the quarrel between him and Heathcliff at the party in Central Castle, the views and feelings of both sides about being wizards were shown to us. What did you pay attention to when you wrote this scene?
A: Perhaps Shino isn’t fully aware about what he does, but he makes Heath stand out because Heath is unable to be like “I’m amazing, look at me!” On Shino’s part, he has had a difficult life since birth and been through much hardship, so he can’t treasure himself. He thinks of himself as someone who is used to suffering, so he leaves it to Heath to say “Stop getting into danger! Take care of yourself, please!” In this way, the two of them complement each other with their friendship. Both Heath and Shino are too young for a proper lord and vassal relationship, and we keep that in mind when writing them. In particular, Shino sees no value in his self that is just ‘Shino’, but thinks the Shino that is Heathcliff’s vassal is valuable. As a result, he imposes his view of worthiness and the meaning of his life onto ‘Heathcliff’. Meanwhile, Heathcliff wants to be friends with Shino. He believes that he doesn’t want Shino to sacrifice himself for him. However, we think that in the hypothetical scenario where Shino were still Heath’s friend but took up service and had a career under someone else, Heath wouldn’t be able to bring himself to support Shino in such a venture. He’d certainly be full of jealousy and resentment along the line of “But you belong to my family!” Heathcliff wants to keep Shino to himself, while not having sufficient self-awareness to be a lord. And Shino is effusive in his idolization of his lord, while not having sufficient self-awareness to be a vassal. They can’t fully be either friends or lord and vassal. We think such topsy-turvy unbalance is the charm of this duo.
An accidental meeting with a Murr fragment
Q: After receiving the report of the investigation, the Western Wizards headed to the Lunar Eclipse Mansion with the Sage and encountered the materialization of a fragment of Murr’s shattered soul there. In that moment, Shylock showed a rare bout of anger at the callous words the materialized Murr threw at him. What kind of feelings did Shylock have about Murr and Murr about Shylock at such a time did you have in mind?
A: That was the first time Shylock saw a Murr materialized from a fragment of the latter’s soul. The shock from meeting Murr again after a long time and his wariness were a whirlpool. We think he had a mild panic uncharacteristic of him when facing such brazen, obnoxious words at such a moment. He acted cruelly out of impulse, then after calming down, he couldn’t help but ask “What do you think of me?” If Shylock had thoughtlessly attacked the real Murr, he would have been teased with “I can’t believe it! You really raise your hand against me!” But he thought that with a soul fragment, it would have no consciousness when fed to Murr. As such, he gave in to the irritation and acted somewhat sloppily. On the other hand, the Murr in that scene was a fragment of Murr’s mind, a biased piece of his thinking. Perhaps compared to the usual Murr, the self-confidence side was coming out rather strongly and a line such as ‘You love me, don’t you’ was laying on a bit too thick. Murr himself isn’t the type who likes provoking and mocking other people. Rather he points out the truth without hesitation from an analytical and curiosity-fueled point of view. We are a bit curious about Shylock’s reaction when being confronted by such a truth. That scene is a commentary from bird’s eye view of what their relationship is like, with Murr and the self in that Murr fragment as separate beings.
The master and disciple relationship that is full of uncertainty
Q: When we read the scene where Chloe cried because the embroidered scarf he had gifted the child he befriended was rejected because that child didn’t want something created by a wizard, we too felt Chloe’s pain. Follow up to that was the scene where Rustica’s kind and gentle words were a salvation. We feel that their master and disciple relationship is different from that of Oz and Arthur’s or Figaro and Faust’s. What’s the important thing to you when you write them?
A: Chloe and Rustica are kind people, so we take care to show the charm of that in their everyday exchanges. They are the type of master and disciple such that Chloe usually takes the lead while Rustica steps up in crucial moments. If we have to compare the nature of their relationship to other cases, we think that above a certain point, Rustica’s search for his bride isn’t something that binds them. Since Rustica believes that his bride is out there, holding on to his marriage promise is a matter of course. However, if Rustica’s bride isn’t found and his heart decides that he is unable to keep the promise, he will lose his magic. Therefore, Chloe is unable to think too much about this situation. He has been receiving support from the kind Rustica, so he is questioning himself if he will be able to handle a Rustica who is in despair. Chloe has the premonition that if he asks Rustica “you’re actually in sorrow, aren’t you,” it’ll be the point of no return. He doesn’t yet have the resolution to deal with that situation. On Rustica’s part, he wants to continue travelling with Chloe, but in the present, he is still unable to contemplate deeper issues like “why do you think so?” or “what will you do if you can no longer do that?” The more they think about each other, the more inevitable it is that they will enter an uncertain, hazy territory. If they move forward with their relationship, they will have to grapple with a reality that might be unhappy. Yet, they’re in a conflict-avoidant mode. It can be said that Chloe holds the initiative when it comes down to their future. However, there’s also the possibility that it’s Rustica who will make the big moves when something happens. Accordingly, one doesn’t know if something will become a needle and burst things open, and we’d like to play out this interesting point about their relationship.
The loose connection between the Northern former masters and disciples
Q: There’re various masters and disciples in the story, and it has been revealed that Snow and White are Oz and Figaro’s masters. From the affection stories and event stories, we get a glimpse of a period where there was a deep relationship between these four characters, who were unchanging and had been together through many points in the long life of a wizard. What do you seek to bring forward in your portrayal of this group of four?
A: It’s really hard to properly express in words what these four are. I suppose they aren’t quite an actual family, but a small community that looks very close to a family. The elder ones really have a vague feeling of responsibility and affection for the younger ones, the kind of feelings that they have to look after the younger ones and help them out in times of trouble or danger. On the other hand, we can’t wholeheartedly describe their bond as ‘like a family’ because apart from the twins, they are the people who don’t really need each other. They are all powerful wizards who can live without asking for help from others, and Oz and Figaro are the passive type who don’t get involved with people on their own initiative. As a result, the connection between them remains on the loose side. Perhaps there’s a trick somewhere for Northern wizards to have a long, continuing relationship.
The rocky master-disciple relationship
Q: Because of what happened in the past, Faust resents Figaro and often clashes with him. What do you pay attention to when you portray the awkward feeling of estrangement between these two characters, who were master and disciple?
A: Their master-disciple relationship ended up not going well for them at the time. It isn’t just that a relationship that didn’t really work is something to feel disappointed over, but also that the fact that it didn’t go well makes it interesting. We think that one aspect of such charm is their conflict and irritation. To portray it, we write them such that an outside observer would look at the doubt and misunderstanding they have about each other and think “but that isn’t the case though?” From Faust’s point of view, Figaro is apparently someone he can’t trust, so Figaro on his part takes what Faust says lightly and pokes fun at it. However, we take care that there’s a measure of “I really mean it just now!” breaking in. Additionally, they fundamentally respect and yet are disappointed about each other. We pay attention so that the respect at the core of their relationship won’t be forgotten even in the situation where their disappointment is strongly expressed, while the sharp bitterness from disappointment won’t completely go away even when they treat each other with respect.
Faust and Lennox’ wishes
Q: In the scene where the Sage, Lennox and Figaro witnessed Faust’s Curious Affliction, which caused his dreams to materialize, we learn the difficult fact that Faust was burnt alive and is currently engulfed in much suffering. Could you tell us about how the sorrows of Faust, who was betrayed by his childhood friend after their fight together for the ideal realm where wizards and humans could co-exist, and the immense loyalty of Lennox, who searched for a disappeared Faust for 400 years, came into being?
A: For a long time, Lennox lived a life where he only reacted to sufferings and oppression. When he finally escaped that, meeting Faust was the first time he saw hopes and dreams since his birth. We think a person who didn’t just while the days away but possessed the new values that open up the future, and who gathers other people around him and leads them to achieve their shared dream, would be very striking in Lennox’ eyes. Loyalty plays a part in Lennox’ search for Faust, but above all is his own regret. He can’t come to an ending, nor can he move on to the next chapter. Instead of resenting Fate or someone else, he blames himself. Why didn’t he get Faust to escape even with the key in his hand? Why did he let Faust be backed into a corner such that the latter disappeared alone? He seeks a conclusion for the story which was cut off in the middle that day. In a similar way, Faust thinks that because of the choice he made out of misjudgment, he brought sufferings to the people who trusted him, and he bitterly regrets trusting humans. He is in the mentality that because he brought sufferings to people, he doesn’t deserve happiness; that he should resent the humans and never forgive him; that he is determined to warp his natural temperament. Because Faust doesn’t have the heart to be happy, Lennox wants to see Faust be happy. As a result there is a struggles between their egos. Because we think that’s what is interesting about this duo, we would like to write them such that the readers feel such charm.
The former partners Bradley and Nero
Q: In the scene where Bradley asked Nero to help him as he was about to go to the Lunar Eclipse Mansion to seize back his treasures, we can see their dispositions and how they interacted with each other. Could you please tell us about what you captured in your writing about the feelings about his former partner Nero of Bradley, who wanted to get Nero to join him for banditry after right meeting him again, as well as the state of mind of Nero, who was invited to return to such activity?
A: From the main story to the affection stories, they’re a duo who just can’t open up about what they feel and talk, aren’t they? As a result, they are in a situation where they keep making light jabs at each other while watching each other cautiously. It isn’t that they are bargaining with each other in a calculated way. Rather they lightly poke at the other side to gauge where each other stands without getting in too deep. To an extent, Bradley takes what happened as a lucky news and feels he must make his move quickly. He continues what they had when they were partners, in a “I’m here, you’re here, let’s go!” way. On Nero’s part, because he was told that he’d be killed if he quitted the bandits, he thought he wouldn’t escape turning to stone when he met Bradley again. What happened was that he was allowed to take up non-criminal life and told to do what he liked, yet at the same time was invited to do banditry again. It was like Brad to be like “This will be the last time” and let go of hard feelings, while Nero himself was conflicted like “This will be the last time so it should be fine?” As a result, it isn’t obvious what his decision would be, right? At the end of the day, Nero didn’t want to be dragged along, but that was what he was used to, so he ended up letting himself be dragged along anyway.
The feeling of distance between Cain and Owen
Q: In the scene where Owen’s Curious Affliction flared up and a child-like personality appeared in front of Cain, Shino, Heathcliff and the Sage, we think that many readers were shocked by how different Owen’s behavior was from his usual self. Even if his eye was robbed by Owen, Cain said that he preferred the usual, Affliction-free Owen. What is the important thing when you portray what kind of relationship Cain and Owen have?
A: Even if Cain is certain Owen is a bad wizard who attacked the Order of Chivalry, he is a soldier at the core. Accordingly, he can try to communicate with Owen for the sake of teamwork when there’s order for him to do that, even if he is angry and confused. Cain can recognize that Owen’s magical power is excellent, and he can’t tell how the next Calamity will turn out, so he won’t disturb the team’s peace out of personal grudge. Cain can become a teammate of Owen as a Sage’s wizard without seeing it as a contradiction, and he isn’t someone who harbors hatred or suffocating emotions. As a result, there’s the feeling that in Cain’s eyes, someone like Owen is akin to a rival. Seeing the person he considered a rival to defeat approached him with admiration like a child, Cain was surprised and at a loss about what to do. On the other side, the feelings Owen has towards Cain are many and varied but they are simple in a seemingly complex way. We can’t talk in details because it’s a spoiler, but we wonder if such feelings will entangle with the Afflicted personality, haunt the original, and take on a concrete shape. A character will look cool in scenes where they have the upper hand against the other side, but we take care that neither side of this duo will lose all the time. Normally, these two would be at the start of anger and hate, but we think it’ll be interesting if they can get to the point where their relationship is such that they will never be completely on the same wavelength but they click in a weird way because of Cain’s temperament and Owen’s true nature. They are the duo for whom we want to maintain a feeling of distance and tension.
Riquet’s favorite
Q: During main story, Mitile and Riquet took care of each other. We think they have come from having a certain distance between each other to treasuring each other as friends. Which scene in the main story do you think contributes the most to the transformation of their friendship?
A: It feels like Mitile and Riquet gradually get close to each other instead of having an incident that defines their relationship, doesn’t it? In the beginning, Riquet decides to take care of Mitile, who was anxious from being in a new environment. Having received that, Mitile teaches Riquet how to read and write. They stand up for each other and escape together. Lately, Mitile guides Riquet’s motivation to use big magic. That’s how we portray them helping each other little by little and spurring each other on their path forward. We think they are comfortable around each other because they’re both good kids, but we think it’s cute when Mitile is affected by the fact that Riquet is a bit strange, so we write them accordingly. Because Riquet is Riquet, he wants to give guidance to Mitile. Because Mitile is his favorite, he will give Mitile special attention and thus he takes the attitude of a leader. We find that quite cute. For Mitile, this is the first time he has a friend who is a wizard of his age, so he feels an according closeness to Riquet. Precisely because of that, he feels jealous about their difference in magical power and strives to be able to do that same thing, and he wants Riquet to watch him. They give off the image that they return the kindness they receive and sweetly do things together as they want to guide each other as if they were older than the other one. By the way, Tsushimi uses these two’s title plate to play the game.
The bond born from a promise
Q: Mithra, who made a promise with Rutile and Mitile’s mother the Great Witch Tiletta, has the power only second to Oz. Because he’ll lose his power if he can’t protect the brothers, he ends up causing a decisive weak point for himself. What is important to you when you portray the relationship between Mithra, who is bound by such a promise, and Rutile and Mitile, as well as their interactions?
A: Like what we’ve written in the event stories, from the perspective of the Mithra who wants to become the strongest in the world, having a weak point is something unfortunate and negative. However, from the perspective of the Mithra who is all alone and unable to realize that he is lonely, a connection like a promise is something fortunate and positive. We’d like to present the point that whether what happens in a person’s life is a plus or a minus and how it plays out would depend on that person. In the physical aspect, the arrangement is that Mithra protects Rutile and Mitile. On the other hand, it’s the Flores brothers who have the broadminded-ness and patience, so we think they have a relationship where they provide emotional comfort for Mithra, calm him down, and teach him. We take care to show the ‘gap’ charm of situations such as someone who has so fierce a disposition like Mithra unexpectedly taking to the easygoing atmosphere of the Flores brothers, the strange scene of Rutile scolding Mithra, Mithra being alarmed many times by Rutile’s wild streak and spinning around in his effort to get it under control, the danger of having someone with immense power around Mitile who secretly admires the strong, and so on. Because the promise was made rather indirectly, the three of them are still at the beginning of their relationship. Mithra has no family, but from the perspective of Tiletta's sons, maybe they will become like three brothers. Perhaps it will feel like Rutile gains another baby brother instead of an older one. We think that their relationship will change many times under the influence of the environment around them, and we take care that it won’t look like the brothers are protected all the time and that Mithra won’t become a restraint on them for his own sake. We would like to create a bond that forms from mutuality.
Q: Mithra describes Tiletta as “an annoying acquaintance that he couldn’t quit.” Then what is Tiletta to Mithra? Also, please tell us how Tiletta came into being?
A: We think Tiletta was Mithra’s companion. If we have to describe it, they had a rather loose relationship of two co-workers at a convenience store who found things easy if they happened to be on the same shift. They had their separate lives and didn’t make much effort to be together. Nothing else would form between them. They were nothing more and nothing less. It’s forgotten now, but the very first draft for Mithra was a character who was ‘thoughtful and calm’ and who made a promise to protect the grandchildren (the Flores brothers) of his friend, who married a human. There was decidedly more human-ness in him than the present. As the details of the story’s world came along, his character became like what he was like at the present, and we think that he didn’t form a social relationship as strong as a friendship with such a personality. Because we wanted him to form the strongest social relationship with the characters who appeared with him in the present of the story, that relationship he had became looser. Along the way we wanted to write a powerful witch, and so Tiletta came into existence.
About Part 2
Q: A few day ago it was announced that the production of Part 2 started. Could you tell us within permitted scope what theme you choose and what kind of story it will be?
A: We won’t talk about the content of the story, but at the meeting for the production of Part 2, we asked if we should look around and move carefully or go full throttle with everything we had. The reply we got was “Of course we want to continue for a long time, and how long we can go depends on what is there at the present, so no need to watch out for anything. Please give it your all.” Like how we have done since release, we approach the story with our best effort. As we portray the wizards like in Part 1, we plan to expand from Central Country, which was the stage in Part 1, to other countries and showcase their situations.
Q: The story of the anniversary event is a long form one with Opening – Middle – Ending parts. What were your thoughts behind the story? What did you pay attention to when you decided the theme and wrote the story?
A: We learnt that the theme for the card illustrations of the event celebrating the first anniversary was the wizards dressed in ceremonial outfits riding their brooms. So to match this theme, we wrote a story where everyone appeared flying in the sky and taking part in exciting actions. Because all wizards took part in the story, the enemy must be accordingly powerful so that it doesn’t feel like a big group beating up a smaller group, so we had to prepare something. Thus we thought about the impression we wanted the audience to get from the story and added what was necessary. Because the wizards tend to appear by countries in regular events, this time we want them to be seen in action as combinations of title duos and trios. The setting is pretty serious so we paid attention so that it wouldn’t be too dark, as this is still a celebration. We were aware that it was rather painful to make everyone go all out in a fight so we have been thinking “we should do comedy next year!” Our greatest wish for this anniversary is that the players would be delighted in a “my favorite wizards are so cool when they fight” way, because we would like to make them happy as a thank you for accompanying the game through the whole year.
Q: Thank you very much for a wonderful conversation! Lastly, please leave a message to the fans who have so far supported Mahoutsukai no Yakusoku, which newly celebrated its first anniversary.
A: Thank you so much for playing Mahoyaku! It’s thanks to Master Sages from across the country that we can celebrate the game’s first anniversary. We might not even be alive beyond the 2nd or 3rd anniversary, but if wishes come true, we would like to be able to celebrate Mahoyaku’s anniversary with our dear Sages for 2000 years! Please continue to support us!